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 Post subject: Murphy Mercedes
PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:36 pm 
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two beautiful creations on Mercedes chassis by Murphy

1928 Mercedes-Benz 630 K Town Car Murphy
1929 Mercedes-Benz SSK Roadster Murphy


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 Post subject: Re: Murphy´s Mercedes
PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:49 pm 
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Can anyone help me out with this one?

The SSK posted above by João is the well-known car now owned by the Kellers in the US. It has been quoted in various places as having been built for "Howard Isham" although I think that may be incorrect and it should be "Harold Isham", son of railroad millionaire (read zillionaire by today's standards) Albert K. Isham, as stated in companion US web-site "coachbuilt.com". Either way, the car has also been mis-attributed to the original ownership of Zeppo Marx. Zeppo Marx certainly did have a blown Mercedes-Benz, and it was an SSK with a Murphy body according to Dennis Adler in a caption in "Mercedes-Benz: 110 Years of Excellence", but he asserts that it was cabriolet and not boat-tailed.

However, photographic evidence shows Zeppo's car in a well-documented contest against a Model J Duesenberg on the Muroc dry lakes, and is quite clear that the stripped-down car had a boat-tail. Whether it was really an SSK I do not know (but it does not look short enough). Many years ago the late Stanley Sedgwick of great Bentley standing stated that he had seen a Murphy "SSK" but felt that it was a cut'n'shut job and not a genuine SSK. At the time I was puzzled because I thought that the Isham/Keller car had established credentials. I did not know of the period pictures of the Zeppo Marx car, nor a second Murphy body.

Now, at the first Marin Sonoma Concours earlier this year, a 36/220 boat-tail has appeared labelled as bodied by Murphy and being the ex-Marx car of Duesenberg duel fame. This event took place many thousands of miles away from me here in the UK and I did not see the car which was shown by a Mr Michael Mackintosh of San Rafael, Ca., and I have not previously been aware of its existence.

Does anyone have any better photographs? Or perhaps one of our Stateside friends is aware of Mr Mackintosh and could persuade him to let us know more. I know we are primarily concerned with the coachwork here, but the existence of TWO Murphy boat-tails on the S/SS/SSK series is very exciting.

Well, it is to me...

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Clive


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 Post subject: Re: Murphy´s Mercedes
PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:53 pm 
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Some more of the 1928 Mercedes-Benz 630 K Town Car Murphy plus the original pic posted before


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 Post subject: Re: Murphy´s Mercedes
PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:41 am 
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neuilly wrote:
The SSK posted above by João is the well-known car now owned by the Kellers in the US. It has been quoted in various places as having been built for "Howard Isham" although I think that may be incorrect and it should be "Harold Isham", son of railroad millionaire (read zillionaire by today's standards) Albert K. Isham, as stated in companion US web-site "coachbuilt.com".


Quote from Coachbuilt.com: http://www.coachbuilt.com/bui/m/murphy/murphy.htm
Coachbuilt.com wrote:
Albert K. Isham, a retired railroad executive living in Santa Barbara, commissioned an impressive Murphy roadster body for a supercharged Mercedes 28/95 chassis in 1925. Four years later, his son Harold ordered a speedster body from Murphy for his brand new Mercedes SSK chassis that currently resides in the collection of Arturo Keller.

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 Post subject: Re: Murphy Mercedes
PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:46 pm 
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Ummmm... that's just what I said Michiel! :lol: :!:

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 Post subject: Re: Murphy Mercedes
PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:07 pm 
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I know, but I find it very important to publish the source's URL for a.o. trackback reasons, credits and more info.

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 Post subject: Re: Murphy Mercedes
PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 3:27 pm 
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1929 Mercedes-Benz SSK Roadster Murphy: two more pics


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 Post subject: Re: Murphy´s Mercedes
PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:48 pm 
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neuilly wrote:
Can anyone help me out with this one?

The SSK posted above by João is the well-known car now owned by the Kellers in the US. It has been quoted in various places as having been built for "Howard Isham" although I think that may be incorrect and it should be "Harold Isham", son of railroad millionaire (read zillionaire by today's standards) Albert K. Isham, as stated in companion US web-site "coachbuilt.com". Either way, the car has also been mis-attributed to the original ownership of Zeppo Marx. Zeppo Marx certainly did have a blown Mercedes-Benz, and it was an SSK with a Murphy body according to Dennis Adler in a caption in "Mercedes-Benz: 110 Years of Excellence", but he asserts that it was cabriolet and not boat-tailed.

However, photographic evidence shows Zeppo's car in a well-documented contest against a Model J Duesenberg on the Muroc dry lakes, and is quite clear that the stripped-down car had a boat-tail. Whether it was really an SSK I do not know (but it does not look short enough). Many years ago the late Stanley Sedgwick of great Bentley standing stated that he had seen a Murphy "SSK" but felt that it was a cut'n'shut job and not a genuine SSK. At the time I was puzzled because I thought that the Isham/Keller car had established credentials. I did not know of the period pictures of the Zeppo Marx car, nor a second Murphy body.

Now, at the first Marin Sonoma Concours earlier this year, a 36/220 boat-tail has appeared labelled as bodied by Murphy and being the ex-Marx car of Duesenberg duel fame. This event took place many thousands of miles away from me here in the UK and I did not see the car which was shown by a Mr Michael Mackintosh of San Rafael, Ca., and I have not previously been aware of its existence.

Does anyone have any better photographs? Or perhaps one of our Stateside friends is aware of Mr Mackintosh and could persuade him to let us know more. I know we are primarily concerned with the coachwork here, but the existence of TWO Murphy boat-tails on the S/SS/SSK series is very exciting.

Well, it is to me...

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Clive


I don't know: you go away from this forum for a short while and it fills up with so much interesting stuff that you can't catch up! Anyway, this is an easy update - the Marx Bros 36/220 Murphy boat-tail is on its way to Goodings auction at Purple Botch. I, for one, will be interested to see what the catalogue has to say about it. It has already been stripped of the wings and Mickey Mouse windscreen.

Clive


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 Post subject: Re: Murphy Mercedes
PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 1:35 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Murphy Mercedes
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Some more of 1928 Mercedes S boat-tail by Murphy


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 Post subject: Re: Murphy Mercedes
PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:56 pm 
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630 K Muphy Roadster, offered in 2002


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 Post subject: Re: Murphy Mercedes
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Murphy Mercedes-Benz 630K


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Murphy Mercedes-Benz 630K Town Car


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SSK factory pic


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 Post subject: Re: Murphy Mercedes
PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 6:34 pm 
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Murphy Mercedes-Benz S, 1928


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again the SSK


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 Post subject: Re: Murphy´s Mercedes
PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 5:51 am 
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neuilly wrote:
Can anyone help me out with this one?

The SSK posted above by João is the well-known car now owned by the Kellers in the US. It has been quoted in various places as having been built for "Howard Isham" although I think that may be incorrect and it should be "Harold Isham", son of railroad millionaire (read zillionaire by today's standards) Albert K. Isham, as stated in companion US web-site "coachbuilt.com". Either way, the car has also been mis-attributed to the original ownership of Zeppo Marx. Zeppo Marx certainly did have a blown Mercedes-Benz, and it was an SSK with a Murphy body according to Dennis Adler in a caption in "Mercedes-Benz: 110 Years of Excellence", but he asserts that it was cabriolet and not boat-tailed.

However, photographic evidence shows Zeppo's car in a well-documented contest against a Model J Duesenberg on the Muroc dry lakes, and is quite clear that the stripped-down car had a boat-tail. Whether it was really an SSK I do not know (but it does not look short enough). Many years ago the late Stanley Sedgwick of great Bentley standing stated that he had seen a Murphy "SSK" but felt that it was a cut'n'shut job and not a genuine SSK. At the time I was puzzled because I thought that the Isham/Keller car had established credentials. I did not know of the period pictures of the Zeppo Marx car, nor a second Murphy body.

Now, at the first Marin Sonoma Concours earlier this year, a 36/220 boat-tail has appeared labelled as bodied by Murphy and being the ex-Marx car of Duesenberg duel fame. This event took place many thousands of miles away from me here in the UK and I did not see the car which was shown by a Mr Michael Mackintosh of San Rafael, Ca., and I have not previously been aware of its existence.

Does anyone have any better photographs? Or perhaps one of our Stateside friends is aware of Mr Mackintosh and could persuade him to let us know more. I know we are primarily concerned with the coachwork here, but the existence of TWO Murphy boat-tails on the S/SS/SSK series is very exciting.

Well, it is to me...

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Clive

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It's only taken 11 years, but here is a 1956 period color slide of the 1927 Marx Boattail Speedster, apparently misidentified for many years as a 1936 model due to its later style fenders and bumpers. Note that it wears the same 1956 LZV 633 CA license plates as in the picture at the 2009 Marin Sonoma Concours.

Photo sourced from Charles Fawcett on Facebook, who took the original slide at a SoCal car show in 1956. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1395378 ... 4516260444

Some images from the 2009 Gooding & Company auction.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1395378 ... 4516260444

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 Post subject: Re: Murphy Mercedes
PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 8:45 am 
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Mercedes 24/100/140 PS by Murphy 1925


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